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  • Health and Safety for Beginners • View topic - Inspections and FFI
    management know of your visit Kev very interesting Will there be a few visits to start off with to make a point and for the system to find its feet test the waters etc Will the visits eventually focus on meaningful findings which are actually beneficial to the organisation s management systems and culture hopefully proactive After all it would be nice to have something to show for spending all that cash Follow Health and Safety for Beginners Facebook Twitter Jack Kane HSfB Site Grand Shidoshi Posts 24056 Joined Wed Mar 17 2004 12 13 am Location Bo ness Twitter http twitter com hsfb Industry Sector Oil and Gas Manufacturing Engineering Website Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by David68 Fri Nov 02 2012 8 19 am This kind of thing was a worry for most people It appears that where 2 months ago some friendly advice would have been provided things litke this are now going to be classed as an internvention for a material breach of a regulation and therefore the company has to get its cheque book out Hopefully things will calm down and common sense will prevail in the long run but i fear that by the time it does the damage to the HSE s reputation will already be done Dave Where were the Germans but frankly who cares Barry Davies 1988 David68 Grand Shidoshi Posts 1585 Joined Mon Jan 16 2012 6 22 pm Location East Midlands Twitter Dave0145 Industry Sector Automotive Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by Fletcher Fri Nov 02 2012 2 06 pm My good news is we had a visit under the hazardous industry waste which was a follow up to a visit last year and everything was fine thankfully Kev I believe that it is down to the inspector s interpretation of what is a material breach within legilation and guidelines but we can make anything a material breach if we really try because the legislation is very grey It would be interesting to see the wording of the letter I m presuming it was a letter and not a notice and whether any photographs are attached to prove the point Seems to me that the Fife HSE are interpreting things differently from Kent I support FFI if it is administered fairly and with common sense which hearing your version in this instance it wasn t rather a heavy hand proving a point HSE will lose remaining goodwill if this is the way it is going to go It will be interesting to see what happens in December when the first invoices hit companies and how many are challenged Fletcher Grand Shidoshi Posts 2522 Joined Mon Feb 14 2011 10 03 am Industry Sector Retired Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by allan w Sun Nov 18 2012 7 19 pm we had a visit from the HSE on one of our sites 2 weeks ago apparantly following up from a complaint

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  • Health and Safety for Beginners • View topic - Inspections and FFI
    4 Joined Wed May 15 2013 12 38 pm Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by The Happy Chap Thu Nov 07 2013 11 34 pm The company I currently work for has been issued a notice of contravention under Regulation 7 of the COSHH Regs before we had been allowed to reply to the contravention notice we were informed that the HSE proposed a visit from several specialists that would incur significant costs I m reluctant to say any more until we can clarify that the material breach that was specified in the contravention notice could not have happened I would like to contribute to this thread as I believe that this case could benefit anyone who is currently under a Contravention Notice Regards Tony The Happy Chap Newbie Posts 3 Joined Thu Nov 07 2013 11 15 pm Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by Alexis Fri Nov 08 2013 7 00 am Hi Happy Chap A very warm welcome to our forums Thank you for your contribution to this topic I am sure it will be interesting to hear your discretionary follow up A candle loses none of its light by lighting another candle http www safetyjobsonline com http www healthandsafetytips co uk blog Alexis Official HSfB Legend Posts 41836 Joined Thu Mar 18 2004 10 52 am Location West Lothian Twitter https twitter com AlexisHSfB Website Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by Coldrop Fri Nov 08 2013 8 28 am Yesterday I sat in an IOSH branch meeting where the subject was FFI I ve sat through a few of these at different H S groups The figure is around 5m for the first 12 months Inspectors still have mixed views and apparently the are doing nothing different in their approach or actions that differ from before FFI was introduced Intellectuals solve problems but Geniuses prevent them Coldrop Major Injury Posts 9027 Joined Sun Apr 25 2004 8 41 pm Location UK Industry Sector Construction Civils Utilities Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by The Happy Chap Fri Nov 08 2013 9 56 am Alexis wrote Hi Happy Chap A very warm welcome to our forums Thank you for your contribution to this topic I am sure it will be interesting to hear your discretionary follow up Alexis it s a difficult situation at the minute because as I have said we are under a contravention notice and the method of exposure quoted in the breach is factually incorrect We are adopting industry BAT to prevent exposure to the agent in question yet despite having explained this to the HSE they still consider us to be in breach and the FFI will be a significant sum I m attending a seminar at Eversheds in Manchester next week and one of the topics is the FFI it will be interesting to see what the general consensus is on FFI many thanks for the welcome and I m sorry

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  • Health and Safety for Beginners • View topic - Inspections and FFI
    www plantengineer org uk plant e cil 58828 A candle loses none of its light by lighting another candle http www safetyjobsonline com http www healthandsafetytips co uk blog Alexis Official HSfB Legend Posts 41836 Joined Thu Mar 18 2004 10 52 am Location West Lothian Twitter https twitter com AlexisHSfB Website Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by Foolsgold Thu Jan 16 2014 1 46 pm Well I had an announced inspection to our factory today Improvement notice issued on the the following Noise assessment was not sufficient was carried out by a third party he deemed did not know the requirements A saw notching machine that had a open panel section needing to be guarded as not in use Was bought brand new without the additional guarding Generally good comments and about management structure and everything else Got to say I am gutted We have made so many improvements over the years and heavily invest in training and accreditations Inspector spend 3 hours and informed us of the breach Anyway takes positives from it and will refocus the issues to our workforce make people more safe at work FG Foolsgold Student Posts 41 Joined Tue Dec 14 2010 9 54 pm Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by Fletcher Wed Jan 22 2014 1 59 pm FG Think I would be looking at recompense from your noise assessor Fletcher Grand Shidoshi Posts 2522 Joined Mon Feb 14 2011 10 03 am Industry Sector Retired Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by dekomp Thu Jan 30 2014 6 52 am Our sister company was visited by the HSE and received a FFi we have a lot of post war power presses the inspector went round the machines they then proceeded to almost swing on a machine guard to see if the guard was easily removable result it came away we have since received the fee which I believe was in the region of 700 they was not happy but I am the end result was a thorough examination of all machines on my works by ourselves which I have been requesting since my first day in position All the required work which should have been done as a program of preventive maintenance is now underway and in the long run will save the company from further infringements the FFI worked dekomp Student Posts 52 Joined Wed Oct 16 2013 2 32 pm Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by Barnaby Thu Jan 30 2014 4 08 pm One of our sites was inspected a few months ago and we were landed with an improvement notice and an FFI The inspector basically walked on site and had a nosy around Didn t contact the company Didn t sign in or inform us of his presence The first lad that saw him challenged him and that was the first that we knew that he was on site To me it seems pretty irresponsible

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  • Health and Safety for Beginners • View topic - Inspections and FFI
    and not indicating that he wasn t happy with anything at the time we got the letter in the post a couple of days later Despite not being present at the time of the visit I m under the impression the inspector was out to find something rather than be there with the aim of improving safety So when the whole world is safe what are we going to do then Keith1983 Suitable and Sufficient since 1983 Posts 8327 Joined Mon Dec 08 2008 3 08 pm Location Lincolnshire South Yorkshire Industry Sector Engineering Manufacturing Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by tinamorgan991 Tue Dec 01 2015 11 42 am Hi Keith If I were you I would download the information on FFI from the HSE website They are supposed to advise you that they have discovered a material breach and that they will be conducting the remainder of the visit under FFI or that they will be writing to you under FFI If they believe that they need to check some information back at the office first they still have to tell you that they believe that there is a material breach and that they will advise you after they have had an opportunity to investigate this further It sounds like you have a very good reason for challenging any FFI invoice you receive tinamorgan991 Newbie Posts 16 Joined Fri Apr 17 2015 4 55 pm Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by dekomp Thu Dec 03 2015 12 11 pm we have just received a visit and FFI our identified issue was WAH production line workers Failed to take effective measures it was possible for operative to fall off whilst using purpose built loading stations to a max of 53 In Hindsight yes it was and a relatively easy fix On the whole I think the visit was very positive but perhaps just a little friendly advice would have sufficed dekomp Student Posts 52 Joined Wed Oct 16 2013 2 32 pm Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by Fletcher Fri Dec 11 2015 11 08 am It appears what was predicted when FFI was first introduced is coming to pass i e the HSE has to pay for itself it will become a policing authority not an advice helping authority I m glad I m retired Fletcher Grand Shidoshi Posts 2522 Joined Mon Feb 14 2011 10 03 am Industry Sector Retired Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by Tyban Tue Dec 22 2015 11 40 pm Hi all Currently involved in an HSE Court case which I inherited from before my time in my new organisation Went to Mag Court several weeks ago and they referred the case to another Mag Court because the previous Magistrates stated they were not experienced enough for the case The HSE submitted their costs during the initial Prosecutors talk and it had gone up by nearly 1000 in two weeks just for

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  • Health and Safety for Beginners • View topic - Inspections and FFI
    not indicating that he wasn t happy with anything at the time we got the letter in the post a couple of days later Despite not being present at the time of the visit I m under the impression the inspector was out to find something rather than be there with the aim of improving safety So when the whole world is safe what are we going to do then Keith1983 Suitable and Sufficient since 1983 Posts 8327 Joined Mon Dec 08 2008 3 08 pm Location Lincolnshire South Yorkshire Industry Sector Engineering Manufacturing Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by tinamorgan991 Tue Dec 01 2015 11 42 am Hi Keith If I were you I would download the information on FFI from the HSE website They are supposed to advise you that they have discovered a material breach and that they will be conducting the remainder of the visit under FFI or that they will be writing to you under FFI If they believe that they need to check some information back at the office first they still have to tell you that they believe that there is a material breach and that they will advise you after they have had an opportunity to investigate this further It sounds like you have a very good reason for challenging any FFI invoice you receive tinamorgan991 Newbie Posts 16 Joined Fri Apr 17 2015 4 55 pm Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by dekomp Thu Dec 03 2015 12 11 pm we have just received a visit and FFI our identified issue was WAH production line workers Failed to take effective measures it was possible for operative to fall off whilst using purpose built loading stations to a max of 53 In Hindsight yes it was and a relatively easy fix On the whole I think the visit was very positive but perhaps just a little friendly advice would have sufficed dekomp Student Posts 52 Joined Wed Oct 16 2013 2 32 pm Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by Fletcher Fri Dec 11 2015 11 08 am It appears what was predicted when FFI was first introduced is coming to pass i e the HSE has to pay for itself it will become a policing authority not an advice helping authority I m glad I m retired Fletcher Grand Shidoshi Posts 2522 Joined Mon Feb 14 2011 10 03 am Industry Sector Retired Top Reply with quote Re Inspections and FFI by Tyban Tue Dec 22 2015 11 40 pm Hi all Currently involved in an HSE Court case which I inherited from before my time in my new organisation Went to Mag Court several weeks ago and they referred the case to another Mag Court because the previous Magistrates stated they were not experienced enough for the case The HSE submitted their costs during the initial Prosecutors talk and it had gone up by nearly 1000 in two weeks just for an

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  • Health and Safety for Beginners • View topic - IOSH CPD
    records Similarly you could attend a three day conference one week and a different three day conference a month later and derive different levels of professional development from each The process of reflection is one of the key elements of CPD It s not the doing of an activity that counts its understanding its value to you and recording it I have to be fair used a bit of the IOSH advice at the end here it makes sense so I have included it That s the first part I will follow this up when you have had a chance to quietly sit and have a go Allow yourself the time have a cuppa and concentrate When you are done click update my CPD Good Luck Gladiator My Bonsai Website Catch me onFacebook Gladiator My Name is Maximus Decimus Meridius Posts 4445 Joined Wed Jun 15 2005 3 53 pm Location In the arena of life Website Top Advertisement Share On Facebook Twitter FriendFeed Orkut Digg Reddit Delicious Tumblr Google MySpace Reply with quote by Frankie C Sat Feb 17 2007 10 32 am Glad A very useful article It takes away some of the mysteries surrounding the scheme Frankie C You must give some time to your fellow man Albert Schweitzer 1875 1965 http www indicator co uk en domains d hp domid 6 Frankie C Grand Shidoshi Posts 3734 Joined Wed Jan 19 2005 5 29 pm Location Stoke on Trent YIM Top Reply with quote by otto Sat Feb 17 2007 7 11 pm I can only re iterate what Frankie has said Glad Otto Purge the unsafe Lord of the garden shed and master of the gravelly patch otto Grumpy Old Git Posts 2303 Joined Sun Apr 11 2004 3 42 pm Location Plymouth originally now Swindon Top Reply with quote Re IOSH CPD by Reddwarf Sun Feb 20 2011 9 57 am i did run in fear of it for nearly to years until my cycle was due to end so i sat down and have to say it was very easy gladiator has described the process will but it is really simple and intuitive if you do need help phone IOSH and they have a help line that is really good should you need it Another point don t try adding activity s beyond your 3 year cycle as it won t allow it Red Reddwarf Grand Shidoshi Posts 4164 Joined Thu Sep 04 2008 9 27 am Location Hampshire Top Reply with quote Re IOSH CPD by linda Thu Feb 24 2011 8 55 pm Hi Folks Don t forget that your IPD CPD records are there to be audited by IOSH be it on an annual basis or before a panel membership upgrade application I am quite happy to keep mine in a blog style being honest I knock some courses and praise others it depends on what I felt that I got out of it However in reality if I put

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  • Health and Safety for Beginners • View topic - IOSH CPD
    you need any help give me a shout You should ace the thing as you are working in that environment You have done your NVQ and can do the job so just take a bit a of time out to get your letters upgraded You started the process so you obviously want them The panel are only there to verify what you said you know if you haven t lied about anything then you will fly through it Regards Linda SHE Knows all about the conversion from the L4 to the NVQ L5 Diploma http www she knows com course dates calendar http www youtube com watch v j9i7wJR8 A linda Member Posts 282 Joined Sat Mar 25 2006 2 35 pm Location yorkshire Twitter sheknowslinda Website Top Reply with quote Re IOSH CPD by acko 338 Sun Dec 18 2011 9 17 pm I can assure people that Linda is no old duffer certainly not in the flesh OY Stop it She s very knowledgeable and a great help with NVQ s http atkinsonsafetyservices co uk Also sole director of Black White UK Ltd looking for more training and consultancy work acko 338 Grand Shidoshi Posts 2199 Joined Mon Jul 17 2006 2 36 pm Location GRIMSBY TOWN I NOW KNOW HOW TO DEFINE OPTIMISM Website Top Reply with quote Re IOSH CPD by Risky1 Mon Dec 19 2011 9 21 am Good morning all hope you had a good weekend When I said old duffers I meant it figuratively I would not accuse any one of being an old duffer unless the cap fits of course I do object to having done the NVQ5 only to find I have to sit another exam open and have to face a panel of my peers Do IOSH not believe me or feel the NVQ is not quite up to standard I am not very good at exams that s why I did the NVQ route not the easiest option by any means Anyway on Friday afternoon I found myself with a spare half hour so decided to have another go at updating my CPD on the IOSH website I still can t work it out I guess it must be me DOH Risky1 Student Posts 39 Joined Wed Dec 14 2011 3 44 pm Location London Industry Sector Healthcare Top Reply with quote Re IOSH CPD by bernicarey Mon Dec 19 2011 10 23 am Risky1 wrote I do object to having done the NVQ5 only to find I have to sit another exam open and have to face a panel of my peers Do IOSH not believe me or feel the NVQ is not quite up to standard I am not very good at exams that s why I did the NVQ route not the easiest option by any means Well quite honestly that s your problem Nobody is forcing you to go for CMIOSH And nobody said the NVQ was easy however don t expect those of us

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  • Health and Safety for Beginners • View topic - IOSH CPD
    Sector Healthcare Top Reply with quote Re IOSH CPD by Robbiebsweet Wed Mar 20 2013 1 21 pm Just a quick one from me I have recently just completed my cycle the only thing I was picked up on was that Part A only went apporx 6 12 months ahead after attending an IOSH session they spoke about the need to ideally look for a 3 year plan Even at a loose end target what you want to do and how you plan to do it or job aspirations Movement in to a HS Manager Role Starting to review additonal specialisations to knowledge i e Noise etc refreshers of certificates etc I found the guide on Page 1 on this forum very useful for me just ensure that you log even minor bits I got 1 point this morning reading about the First Aid Reform proposals as they mean we need to start to think about what providers we may need if any in the future to add to components of basic first aid I have a Chartered Membership Peer Interview in a few weeks and will update how my CPD was reviewed as part of that in the next few weeks Regards Robbiebsweet Newbie Posts 8 Joined Wed Mar 20 2013 12 28 pm Location Sheffield or Thereabouts Industry Sector Retail Distribution Top Reply with quote Re IOSH CPD by Fletcher Tue Apr 02 2013 12 08 pm Good Luck with the Peer Review Remember they want to know what YOU have done if it is as part of a team what YOU did in that team to achieve the objective Also read the IOSH Code of Conduct you don t have to know it by heart but you do have to understand the essence of what is required of you There are no trick questions just questions about what you have said you have done so you should be an expert Remember also that they are confirming your potential to be a competent chartered member They are looking for someone who has the basic qualities for charteredship i e taking the first steps not a fully developed chartered member That s what your CPD is there to prove that over the years you are developing into a more mature chartered member with greater experience Fletcher Grand Shidoshi Posts 2522 Joined Mon Feb 14 2011 10 03 am Industry Sector Retired Top Reply with quote Re IOSH CPD by Steve M Sat May 11 2013 8 37 am I have my NGC exams in June I was wondering if it is beneficial for me to be an IOSH member I have already registered with the site not sure whether I should start my CPD now or not its not that I cant afford the membership just have other things to spend the cash on but if its going to benefit me then I will go for it I would appreciate any advice Steve Steve M Snr Member Posts 359

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